[GE users] how do you use -dl with qrsh? (qrsh will flag an error for the value of the flag, but if the value is valid it disowns the flag)

reuti reuti at staff.uni-marburg.de
Wed Dec 9 11:11:40 GMT 2009

Am 09.12.2009 um 03:37 schrieb bdbaddog:

> Reuti,
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM, reuti <reuti at staff.uni-marburg.de>  
> wrote:
>> Hi Bill,
>> Am 09.12.2009 um 00:47 schrieb bdbaddog:
>>> I'm running 6.2U4
>>> I beleive the argument to -dl here is valid, but then it errors with
>>> -dl not known
>>> qrsh -dl 12081339 -P lp -l s_rt=1200 -l h_rt=1380 -l coupons=2 - 
>>> now n
>>> -nostdin -cwd -N blah  /bin/sh
>>> /home/bdeegan/work/main-plain/output/test/blah.sh
>>> error: Unknown option -dl
>>> Here I expect it's invalid, but it admits there's a -dl flag.
>>> qrsh -dl 1339 -P lp -l s_rt=1200 -l h_rt=1380 -l coupons=2 -now n
>>> -nostdin -cwd -N blah /bin/sh
>>> /home/bdeegan/work/main-plain/output/test/blah.sh
>>> Invalid format of date/hour-minute field.
>>> error: ERROR! Wrong date/time format "1339" specified to -dl option
>>> Any idea what's going on here?
>> it seems, that SGE is first checking the format of the supplied
>> values. When it's fine, it discovers thereafter that it's not a valid
>> option for qrsh at all. There is either a bug in the documentation or
>> the behavior of qrsh. I suggest to file a bug.
>> I'm not sure, whether a deadline is best for an interactive job while
>> you are waiting for the results in front of the terminal, as only the
>> priority up to the given date will rise - there is no guarantee that
>> it wil start for sure at that time. When you want something to run
>> for sure, it's best to submit an advance reservation first - when
>> it's granted the slots are reserved for your job. Then you can submit
>> the actual (interactive) job into this advance reservation.
>> In SGE, an interactive job is more handled like an immediate job by
>> default.
>> $ qrsh ... => will run in an interactive queue
>> $ qsub ... => will run in an batch queue
>> But:
>> $ qrsh -now no ... => will run in a batch queue
>> $ qsub -now yes ... => will run in an interactive queue
>> So, to keep you qrsh job hanging around until the advance reservation
>> starts, you need:
>> $ qrsh -now no -ar 1234 ...
> For historical reasons, the scripts I'm working on use qrsh in order
> to wait for the completion of what is effectively a batch job.
> They do use -now no.
> The jobs will be asking for some consumable resources (Max for a give
> type of host, as we're not yet running 6.2U3 or above) and can't use
> exclusive access. The idea was to use -dl to have the priority bump up
> and insure at some point the job would be able to get exclusive access
> to a node.

Then I would suggest to use an  urgency policy with an attached  
complex for this followup job, so that this job is more important  
than others. I assume you use already -hold_jid, and as long as the  
predecessor isn't finished, it won't reserve anything. As soon as the  
first job finishes, the followup job will be on top of the waiting list.

-- Reuti

> -Bill
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